One thing surprised me at yesterday’s inaugural Gosport to Fareham busway service: the relative lack of enthusiasts present. Perhaps by the time I joined the party, devotees & supporters had gone home or elsewhere (perhaps to the nearby charity garage open day, near Botley). There were nevertheless a handful of photographers along the way. And several ordinary passengers were marking the occasion on film.
There were, indeed, plenty of “ordinary” people about. Whether they were out for a taste or whether it’s always like this on a Sunday, who knows. I suspect at least some were the former. But, unlike the launch of the Cambridgeshire guided busway, there were no duplicates, no terminus crowds and no crushes which, actually, was disappointing, really. I would’ve thought better of the good people of south Hampshire, especially considering their transport heritage—horse & electric trams and railway. At least a number of departures were full, though.
Passenger reaction was nevertheless favourable. Everyone commented upon the Eclipses’ interiors and many seemed genuinely surprised that a bus could “feel” so good. Mind you, much of First’s ordinary interiors are now looking a little careworn. The ambience inside Eclipse simply highlights the different in a very stark way. Two late teenage girls, upon moving towards the rear, yelped at each other, saying how “weird” was the bus. And how “weird” it smelt. That would be the leather. Bournemouth’s Gemini 2s still smell of leather, even now, even after thousands of passenger journeys.
Passengers were also complimentary about the ride on the bus. This was less the bus and more the busway, of course. The difference between the busway and standard roads was immediately noticeable (to me at any rate). The busway limit of 40 (I’m guessing for environmental reasons) meant that progress seemed stately rather than rapid. But it’s always different on the cushions to in the cab, isn’t it.
One person felt the bus was like his kitchen. I took this to be a Good Thing. It might mean he feels at home on the bus. He was talking of how dirty and slippery the light wood-effect flooring might become in bad weather. Dirty, yes, and First is going to have to make every effort to keep these clean. Unless First takes pride in these vehicles, they will become shabby quickly. Slippery, no, not in Bournemouth, where there’s a multitude of such interior flooring.
Passenger opinion of the overall project was still divided. Some felt it a waste of money, others thought it was a good investment. Those in the negative didn’t seem to be put off in using the busway, though, which is as well. A couple of the drivers were keen to engage in feedback. Again, this was positive but I wonder whether they, too, might feel the greater public is against the cost of the project.
There were few enthusiasts and, fortunately, no campaigners. The security patrols along the busway had not diminished but there was no trouble from those who had previously tried to thwart the scheme. They’d previously claimed that the rubbish tip that had become the disused railway was actually a wildlife haven. Interesting how there wasn’t much concern before the busway. One dog walker had decided to defy the No Pedestrians ban and was teetering along the edge of the busway.
And that brings me to a point of real concern. The busway is also open to cyclists and there were a lot about. Mostly adults, they were behaving. What about children? This might be worst at dusk when there’s no lighting along the route (other than at stops). As far as I could see, the barriers would be effective in barring cars but what about motorcycles, via the pedestrian & cycle on slips? A possible night time nuisance?
All vehicles were nicely equipped with a monitor that shows your relative position and the next stop, with stops going red when due. It was a bit indistinct from towards the middle to back. Strangely, only one bus had any announcements. They appeared to be in bodged English, so Palmerston Drive came out as Pal *mer* ston. And Fareham as something like Fairy Ham. The announcements were also rather loud and, should the bus sail by, the second was slightly after the event. These things, I am sure, will be resolved.
The quality of shelters was excellent and was a real credit to the county council. All the fittings were top quality (and will be prone to vandalism and graffiti?). Each stop has a screen scrolling between RTI, news headlines, weather and, northbound, rail departures from Fairy Ham.
Alighting for the train, I was told by my last driver that “they” had sited a new bus stop for just such a purpose. Fair play.
So far, so Fair-ham. Sunday as Day 1 was a good bedding in day. The real business starts today. And only then will the good people of Gosport & Fareham know whether this is a winner or not. Much will depend upon Redlands Lane, where the 40 mph busway hits Fairy Ham at 30 mph, with the chance of doing that speed would be a fine thing...
++++++++
Corrections
Regarding Sunday’spost, I get the point about undertakers. I understood this as being funeral directors, I really did, not statutory undertakers. Funeral directors does make sort of sense… crematoria work on slots and it would be possible to miss on owing to traffic on the A32.
I was corrected on Provi’s Seddons. They weren’t RUs, according to RC169. I checked and he was correct. Thanks.
A while ago I used “Gentile” when I meant “genteel”. Thanks to whomsoever pointed this out. I blame the spell checker : )






19 comments:
There were plenty of enthusiasts out first thing but I guess moved on to the Brijan open day. The Portsmouth News are reporting the buses were rammed:
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/transport/buses-are-crammed-as-new-brt-service-takes-first-journey-1-3763130
Just wait for treats and trolls to start posting their anti-BRT drivel on there today, what are they going to do now it's open and people are using it?
Crammed not rammed!
Rammed is fine!
No pedestrians, but cycling permitted? So don't get a flat tyre... ;)
Neil
That pair on the cove panels get around. They also travel with Trent Barton!
They're obviously very proud bus users and can't wait to travel on any bus that Best Impressions has been involved in, because they know a good thing when they see it.
Hats off to them I say!
According to a well informed source within FH&D there is only the one bus that is currently audio fitted and the others will join it over the next three weeks - a Hilsea B7RLE is temporarily on loan to allow for one to be off the road on a rolling programme and a Bristol example is on loan to Hilsea to cover for that. And before anyone asks why the Bristol B7 hasn't gone straight to Hoeford its because of the RTI and transponder equipment fitted. The strange pronunceations are because of the phonetic style recording needed which has cause a small issue but is in the process of being rectified.
Actually the Bristol B7 is on loan for a maximum of one week, as one of the Eclipse buses is a H&D trim having finishing touches.
Having not been to the South Hampshire / Solent area for a long while I have been researching ticket options for a day out to see developments, including Eclipse. Being a TfL service user I prefer an all inclusive ticket that works on all services. I cannot be bothered having to choose in advance whose bus I might get on where there is a choice. I don't even mind paying a premium for the convenience factor.
How disappointing it is that so few operators bother to mention the Solent Travelcard. Well done to First and Velvet for making an appropriate mention or providing a link. A curse on Stagecoach and Go Ahead's local businesses for not mentioning the ticket at all. I can perhaps let Emsworth and District and Brijan Buses off as they are smaller scale operations and the former's website is being updated.
Given the "direction of travel" from government and the competition authorities you might imagine that bus operators would mention all of the multi operator tickets that they participate in. I note also that the webiste for the "Getting About" ticket for Bournemouth and Poole is not working and there is no detailed info from W&D or Yellow Buses on their sites.
Has anyone taken on the task of compiling a national listing of all multi operator tickets and making it available to the public? I suspect it would be a popular resource.
Anon at 1519...don't forget Plusbus for Fareham zone which covers Fareham-Gosport,including Eclipse services,and quite bit more.
Solent Travelcard is poorly advertised, and many local bus drivers are not aware of its validity,so pax buy an operator specific rover to avoid the embarrassment of an arguement with a driver.Also,it was meant to include local rail and ferry services but never has to my knowledge, and it a bit of a lame duck IMO.
Solent Travelcard was designed as an all-operator ticket and, in the early days, the buses were all equipped with vinyls to underline their sale/acceptance. Sadly, as buses move around national fleets or are replaced, there has been a marked reluctance to display the promotional vinyls. In particular GSC refused to display them on their Blustar buses, as having spent time and money designing a pleasing image, they didn't want to despoil it by having a 'third party' sticker on it. But this is no excuse for failing to mention on websites, etc.
There was, indeed, a proposal to extend Travelcard to local rail and ferries a few years back, but this faltered because of difficulties apportioning revenue to the non-bus operators.
However, despite the poor publicity, Solent Travelcard continues to be a rare example of a simple ticket interavailable on all buses over a wide area, including the two cities of Southampton and Portsmouth (although there is a questionmark about Xelabus's commercial services).
See http://www.solent-travelcard.org.uk/
Solent Travelcard has never been "meant to include" rail and ferries. It is a ticket created by and managed by the bus operators to enable seamless travel across our collective networks - a rare example of bus operators spontaneously working together to provide a facility of this kind.
It was never "meant to be" any more than that, but rail and ferry options continue to be discussed in the background, just as we consider any enhancements that can improve the usefulness of the ticket.
To be honest the difficulties with rail owe more to their bureaucracy, lead times, issues with ticket gates and all sorts of administrative obstacles, than revenue apportionment.
Travelcard continues to sell in good numbers and continues to be seen as a key feature of the local transport offer, although the fact that it has to be premium priced will always make it a niche product.
However, comfort for those bemoaning the lack of marketing is that the operators have been discussing this very issue in recent weeks, and a wave of increased marketing activity can be expected in coming months.
Solent Travelcard is a great way to see Eclipse while also sampling other services in the region!
Now if you want a real can of worms, try Explorer...
I've just checked the website, and there is no mention of being able to buy the Solent Travelcard other than with cash on the bus when you travel...bit 1980s these days.
One hopes the new marketing(where is the existing marketing?) will make it possible to download to smartcards like 'the key'.
It also says that all operators will accept in...so does that include minnows like Xelabus then ?
OK...how are Explorer tickets doing these days...here is a tin opener to open that can of worms Phil!!
very ray stenning, exactly like the interiors on cardiff buses - and no doubt several others!
There is a strand of work going on as we speak to try to move Solent Travelcard on to smart media, which would then allow more imaginative payment methods.
However, all operators have to be able to 'read' the ticket, so there is an issue with operators that don't have (or don't plan to get) smart ticketing equipment, and that's one of several obstacles we have to overcome.
Strictly speaking Xelabus don't participate at the moment but should be doing so very soon.
The answer to the Explorer question is that I have no idea! We (Velvet) have had many requests to participate in Explorer - especially with the advent of the 67 - we are quite happy to do so, but no-one seems to manage it so there appears to be no way to "join"! We are working on this behind the scenes, but the whole thing appears to be a muddle.
Hmmm - thanks for the follow up comments on Solent Travelcard. I see one comment about drivers not being aware of the product. This is precisely the concern I have if some of the bus companies who participate can't / won't advertise the product to the public. As a non local the last thing you want is a dispute with a driver over whether he should sell you a ticket or accept it on their bus. I've had this problem with the North East Explorer and that is a product that sells well, is well established and marketed.
It is, however, encouraging to see that the operators are talking about improving promotion and awareness of the product. And yes I agree Explorer is a complete mess.
I want to do quite a few trips using Explorers in the South East but the lack of good, detailed info is a significant problem. The confusion as to how First participate or not with Explorer is, for me, a significant issue. I know operators want people to only buy their own ticket but it is not at all realistic if you wish to travel widely or in an area where there are multiple operators. I am amazed that the partipating companies are (seemingly) unable to provide a coherent product and consistent co-ordinated information to the public. Another missed opportunity to work together to boost bus ridership (and tourism) across a region.
The North East Explorer is weakening as the smaller operators don't accept it. Essentially it is just Arriva, Stagecoach and Go-Ahead that accept the ticket. This is problematic as Arriva's route mileage in County Durham and North Yorkshire is in freefall...
Given the existance of the over 60 free pass,I wonder how many passengers actually still buy Explorers.
From my limited experience, they used to be an 'old folks day out ticket',and apparently the downfall of things like the Southampton-Portsmouth,and Bournemouth-Southampton express services.
Do they fill a niche as a multi-operator ticket for those who still pay to travel ?
Great to see the old trackbed actually being used again, too much of the former line has been allowed to be built on already, that's why I'm glad HCC actually pulled their finger out on this one.
Personally I'd rather see a dedicated guideway (ala Cambridge) but I'm aware costs were a big issue there so I understand that was never really an option.
Also, I'd love to have seen the entire gradient of the embankment lowered so it was level with palmerston drive, If only because it would've been a great view from the entrance at palmerston drive all the way down the busway.
Post a Comment