Monday, 30 January 2012

Bidders Welcome

First Bus is never far from the headlines these days. There’s the question of its rebranding exercise, for one thing. Its TV advert. And news that it wants to prune its UK bus business… but can’t.

All it’s managed to offload so far is King’s Lynn. It ditched Bury St Edmund’s without a sale. But it wants to shift more. As the headline in Passenger Transport reads, “First struggling to find bus business buyers”. Economic conditions are getting in the way. But, were the economy is better shape, it may be that First would want to sell off less than it does. Could be a catch 22.

If this is affecting First, how will it affect other, smaller operators? Speak to independents and, for some of them, they’re reaching crisis point, one perhaps like no other in their histories (particularly if they are a post-1986 start up, as most are, having never experienced bus services in the dark days of the 1970s). The traditional route out is via a sale but this may be difficult at present, which means some smaller operators are stuck because:

  • They can’t hedge on fuel like the groups

  • Many rely disproportionately on local authority contracts—and we all know that 75 per cent of local transport authorities are forced into making cuts

  • They’re about to face a 20 per cent reduction in BSOG, in two months. Opportunities to claw some, any, of this back from beleaguered LTAs is minimal

  • The whole industry is experiencing zero growth, as high streets are increasingly under pressure

  • Many smaller operators in the tendered arena operate in either more rural or less attractive settings, which leaves little opportunity for passenger growth even in good times—and, with a smaller customer base, less to be gained from fares increases

  • Free travel reimbursements don’t cover costs especially, again, in a rural context where free travellers are at saturation and longer distance journeys may mean even poorer reimbursements per passenger
Back to First and the reasons why potential bidders are cautious at the moment align themselves near enough to some of the above. You need to add any competitive pressures First may face (where these exist) and the potential effect of the Competition Commission report. We don’t yet know where the government will take this. And this seems to be a sticking point: simple sales that might’ve gone through on the competition nod a year ago may need OFT guidance.

But, surely, some of First’s potential cast off businesses might be a worthwhile punt, given where they are. With the right management, the only way, surely, is up. Nevertheless, according to Passenger Transport at least, larger disposals are unlikely to go ahead. It could be that First has missed the boat: the previous policy of holding on to its businesses no matter what may have been a folly.

First isn’t saying which businesses (or parts thereof) are potentially for sale. First has, however, intimated that these won’t be in the north or in Scotland. This in spite of business growth there of below one per cent, compared to 3.7 per cent in the south.

So, the $64,000 question is, which parts of First’s huge empire would it like to sell?
  • Cornwall? First has followed in Western National & Badgerline footsteps finding this county a tough area of operation. In spite of slamming the door to outside group interests by buying the Truronian business, there’ve continued to be cuts in this area.

  • West Wales? The Welsh regional assembly last week announced a significant reduction in both its own BSOG and funding for council bus services—all from April 2012. Does this leave the area west of Swansea (more) vulnerable?

  • Rural areas of East Anglia? Following Bury St Edmund’s and King’s Lynn.

35 comments:

Anonymous said...

Surely the most obvious, by far, has to be Northampton ?

Saxhleel said...

Northampton would certainly be the most obvious out the lot. Other contenders could be Lowestoft and Ipswich - although I can't see Ipswich going until the Park and Ride contract finishes.

Anonymous said...

Can't find buyers? Don't believe you, First! You can sell anything at the right price. If you can't find buyers, then the price is too high. So, if you're desperate (and you almost certainly are), pile them buses high and sell 'em cheap. Jolly Jack Cohen [Tesco's founding father] had the right idea; he even managed to create a market for tinned prunes.

Anonymous said...

So the Competition Commission says you can't sell a depot to someone else, if it creates a monopoly (Hexham/Ashington).
And the Competition Commission says you can't compete by flooding the streets with buses (Preston).
Doesn't leave many options really, but does wreck the value of the business.

Anonymous said...

The competition commission haven't done First any favours, the most logical buyer in a localised business like buses is the bus company next door but after Preston and the Go North East / Arriva saga your damned if you do compete your damned if you don't compete by selling up!

Anonymous said...

Why should anyone "buy" unwanted bits of First? What are you buying? Buses, equipment, premises at book cost, staff and old spanish customs? Hmmm ...

Goodwill/existing cashflow? Possibly ...

But why not simply register competing routes, invest in some decent buses, a low cost depot, and good publicity, cherry-pick good drivers and wait for First to pull out?

In olden days, the RSLs would be the golden egg you were buying but the game changed in 1986 ...

Anonymous said...

Northampton is so often mentioned that it must be very high on First's agenda.

As others have said, surely it must be fairly straightforward to just register a reliable, frequent, service over the existing First routes ?

RC169 said...

Anonymous said...

"As others have said, surely it must be fairly straightforward to just register a reliable, frequent, service over the existing First routes ?"

To register, yes; to operate a reliable service - that's the difficult part!

Anonymous said...

"Surely the most obvious, by far, has to be Northampton ?"

Perhaps Mr Busing left this one out becasue it's too far north? ; )

Anonymous said...

What is wrong with Northampton (Not familiar with the operations but it seems the vote winner here).

Anonymous said...

Perhaps they are looking to sell First Aircoach in Ireland? It looks like they may well be trying to get out of Europe with their ventures in Scandanavia being disbanded and the German company being sold.

Also they've returned quite a lot of First Group assets to the UK recently that were previously sent to Ireland leaving the operation with pretty much only vehicles that were bought directly by First Aircoach.

Anonymous said...

Northampton's surely not worth anyone other than Stagecoach having? Mind you, I'd have said the same about Preston Bus, and Rotala went for that, so who knows?

Go-Ahead might fancy padding out KonnectBus with some ex Eastern Counties stuff. Ditto Plmouth CityBus with some ex Westerm National stuff if they were allowed.

Leicester and York are isolated and I suspect others could make more out of the opportunities they offer (Transdev in York?) but i guess they'll be making good money for First at present.

Oh, and they have sold in the past - Orpington to Metrobus/Go Ahead.

Anonymous said...

The Arriva/MK Metro/Centrebus group might still be interested in Northampton, despite the presence of Stagecoach.

However, a gentle registering of services by Stagecoach over the few remaining First Northampton routes is probably all that's needed.

Anonymous said...

"Free travel reimbursements don’t cover costs" - if this is provable, your recourse is judicial review. Frankly I am sick of hearing this; the principle 'no better or worse off' is enforceable. That historic reimbursement rates left operators better off than under the no-concessionary-fares state is neither here nor there.

Anonymous said...

Clearly Anon @ 1936 has no real experience of the machinations of concessionairy fare reimbursement in England.

Ever tried working out how the latest DfT RAT works? No matter what numbers you put in the same number comes out the end.

Many LA's are now reimbursing at less than 50%, some as low as 33-34% whilst Scotland and Wales reimburse at 67-73% - how is that 'no better no worse off'?

An operator I worked for received less than 70pence per concession for a 15 mile journey, a typical bus journey of twenty concessions didn't cover the drivers wages let alone fuel, contribution towards vehicle maintenance, head office costs, etc. In the end the route frequency was reduced by 50%. Three years previously the concessions paid half fare and had double the frequency - who's worse off?

The DfT devise the reimbursement calculator, tell LA's how much money they have to spend and then act as judge and jury on appeals.

Anonymous said...

I have to agree "Northampton" must be one of the areas there want to get rid, but No one would want to buy it.. expect Stagecoach who could just reg 4 new routes to kill first off. The depot is far smaller than Preston bus operations....

But the money would still be on the following?

* Cornwall
* Somewhere/ A depot in the First Edinburgh empire... that place has not made money in years.

I cant see anywhere else there would want to sell off. If stagecoach can get a profit out of all depots etc which includes Scottish HIGHLANDS, then first need to look at themselves.

Anonymous said...

What about Wyvern? Or just Hereford depot perhaps? It is pretty isolated.

Eric said...

I'd like to see the day Stagecoach get rid of First in South Wales, but that's not going to happen any time soon worst luck. Their reputation isn't the strongest and I can't see how they can justify charging much higher fares than Stagecoach on comparable journeys by using a fleet of predominantly 12+ year old vehicles (I was in Swansea recently and the youngest bus in the entire station was on an 'R' plate).

I have been subject to numerous early running buses (missing some because of it), filthy vehicles, aggressive drivers (towards passengers), rude drivers and so on, something I never seem to witness with Stagecoach even though I use First around 20% of the time.

Anonymous said...

North Devon must be vulnerable what with Stagecoach already competing on the key route.... but who would want to buy an operation in that situation?

Anonymous said...

"Leicester and York are isolated and I suspect others could make more out of the opportunities they offer (Transdev in York?) but i guess they'll be making good money for First at present."

York isn't really isolated with it being only an hour away from the main West Yorkshire operations.

Anonymous said...

West Wales might be of interest to Stagecoach who have significant operations in South Wales. Stagecoach

David said...

York isn't isolated. It's been part of their West Yorkshire operations since 1990 when West Yorkshire Road Car was broken up. York, Leeds and Bradford went to Rider Group, the rest to Blazefield (now Transdev). I doubt they'll be getting rid of it soon, that York operation predates First even existing.

It was there under Rider Group, it was there under Badgerline and it's still there under First. Given the high fares and captive market it's also pretty profitable.

Anonymous said...

I have read elsewhere that "it's hard to make stage carriage work for a profit in York" - although the source certainly has some connection with First.

Anonymous said...

"West Wales might be of interest to Stagecoach who have significant operations in South Wales. Stagecoach"

As do First in South Wales!

Anonymous said...

Transdev York are expanding. They're taking over York Pullman's bus routes and sight-seeing services from the 25th of February, according to Route One magazine.

Anonymous said...

Quote "West Wales might be of interest to Stagecoach who have significant operations in South Wales. Stagecoach"

As do First in South Wales!"


First do not have any operations in South Wales other then a service from Bristol & a handful of routes in Cardiff

Anonymous said...

I understood that First has an operation centred on Swansea. They have depots at Haverfordwest,Llanelli, Port Talbot, Swansea (Ravenhill, Bridgend, Maesteg, Camarthen, Tyrcroes and Cardiff.

Anonymous said...

Other than the small bas in Cardiff they are all in West Wales

RC169 said...

Anonymous said...

"Other than the small bas in Cardiff they are all in West Wales"

Bridgend, Maesteg, Port Talbot - West Wales?

Anonymous said...

Yes Bridgend is classfied as being in West Wales

Anonymous said...

I suppose First remaining in York would depend on them holding on to Park & Ride as a number of these routes also form part of the local network.

Anonymous said...

"Other than the small bas in Cardiff they are all in West Wales"

Cardiff's 400 and Barry work has been De-registered from April 1st. Could this be the end for Cardiff?

Anonymous said...

I'm reliably informed that Cardiff will continue with P&R and school workings totaling 18 vehicles.

Eric said...

Bridgend comes under SEWTA (South East Wales Transport Alliance).

Anonymous said...

http://www.scotsman.com/scotland-on-sunday/business/stagecoach_abandons_talks_to_acquire_london_bus_assets_from_firstgroup_1_2139280

Stagecoach abandons talks to acquire London bus assets from FirstGroup