In spite of *some* of the 30 comments under the post “Easter Day”, bus operators have generally risen to the challenge set by changes to the way society now views what was once the Day of Rest.
25 years ago, there was no Sunday trading in England worth speaking of. You might find the odd garden centre, perhaps, and corner shops, newsagents & petrol stations. Towns were otherwise shut for business.
It was at the time of deregulation in the bus industry that the then government was defeated in its proposals for a liberalisation of Sunday trading. This was but a setback as thereafter some larger stores ignored the rules in any case and many began petitioning the government to try to force change.
That change came in 1994 when shops of a certain size were permitted to open for a maximum of six hours. At first, this was largely confined to the now burgeoning out-of-town retail developments and larger city centres but slowly and surely this has broadened to include shops in many of our town centres, easily accessible by bus.
The pattern of Sunday bus services before 1994 was one of long-term decline. In particular, the 1970s had been cruel to Sunday buses and deregulation invariably hadn’t helped. There were nevertheless key Sunday urban and inter-urban buses still operating, traditionally at half the weekday frequency or at such times deemed by local transport authorities as acceptable.
Buses in urban areas tended to start up around 0900 to 1000 with perhaps a very sketchy service before that, if at all. Inter-urban routes and where still operating in more country districts, Sunday buses tended to be first out between 1100 and 1300, sometimes a little later. Outside larger urban areas, demand never wound up till after 1200.
It’s funny what you recall. I vividly remember going north early one Sunday evening and following a northbound Bristol Omnibus service 254, picking it up from somewhere near Beckington and staying behind it nearly all the way to Bath. I can’t be precise about the year but various giveaways placed it somewhere between 1972 & 1977. Being an ECW bodied Bristol RESL with four glazed panels, it was possible to get a good view from the outside rear of those on board. The maximum was a disappointing three, over the 40-minute ride.
That particular journey no longer exists. The pattern of successor First 267 still offers five journeys between Beckington & Bath, though the last journey from Bath runs about an hour earlier than it once did. The telling part is that the Sunday times on this inter-urban/rural service have shifted forward so the first arrival in Bath is at 1055, some 2½ hours earlier than in the 1970s and 1980s. And although I have no evidence, I suspect that today’s 1055 arrival will be very healthy.
For an impressive increase in Sunday services, look no further than Poole & Bournemouth. Going back again to the late 1970s to 1990s, 20-minute frequency was busy enough with passengers, both in the winter and especially summer. Single decks now hold sway. From today, Wilts & Dorset will up its 10-minute service to one running during shopping hours at every 7½ minutes. From about 1800, this now steps down to the previous every 15. Plus, of course, Yellow Buses operates every half hour, too. The first Sunday bus off Poole runs two hours earlier, at 0515, following the night bus service.
And pre-Charlie’s Cars, could anyone have predicted the bus frenzy that is now at Castlepoint? During 1970s Sundays, for example, frequencies on the 32-35 were thin. Look at bus times now.
Could anyone have predicted this in the 1970s, 1986 or 1994?
Sunday, 1 May 2011
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As another example, take the 55 between Calne and Swindon, operated now by Stagecoach, but once part of the Bristol Omnibus empire.
In the 1970s (June '72 and December '78 timetable books) the first bus from Calne to Swindon was at 1400, then 1705, 1910 and finally 2140 running as service 465.
Today the first bus from Calne to Swindon is at 0936 then every 30 minutes until 1903 (the last two are slighty off headway), then 2003, 2103 and 2218.
I regularly see the 0936 departure when it stops outside church, a couple of stops into the route. It's not unusual for 8 passengers to join the bus there, and there will already be a similar number on board.
I wonder how many would have been on board the first, 1400, journey in the summer of 1972?
I think mentioned in a previous article but I do wonder whether we are not far off the day when bus operators publish a weekday and weekend timetable with perhaps the first few weekend trips being Saturday only until circa 9am.
There certainly appears to be little difference in actual journey times on a Sunday compared to Saturdays after 10am in most cities with similar levels of traffic on the road although bus timetables don't seem to reflect this in many cases with most operators still thinking you can do an average 29mph on an urban route on Sundays...
Yes the transformation has been marked in a short space of time, and will continue further I suspect.
Salisbury City Services were still configured for the old world as recently as 2002. The 55 to West Harnham, for instance, had departures at 1145, 1415, 1715, 1844, then hourly till 2244! Now we have come full circle, with an hourly service all day from 0902, and the hourly evening service to be withdrawn imminently due to tendered service cuts.
The first K from Pinhoe to Exeter leaves at 0840 and is regularly full with standing when they stick on a Solo instead of the usual new single decks. Indeed Sundays recently got changed from Solo's to single decks all day due to the loadings.
Those though are very much the exception in most places little more then a skeleton service runs on a few key routes starting at about 11am and running at 2 hourly intervals
"I think mentioned in a previous article but I do wonder whether we are not far off the day when bus operators publish a weekday and weekend timetable with perhaps the first few weekend trips being Saturday only until circa 9am."
Maybe in some places but I can't ever see that being widespread
1. Evenings. Sunday evenings are dead in many places, whereas as Saturdays are not
2. Not everywhere has embraced Sunday opening. Particularly in smaller towns and rural non-tourist areas. Thinking of my town the only shops open on a Sunday are bookies, newsagents and Supermarkets. None of the small local traders that I can think off. Neither are the chemist or the post office for example
3. Markets. Not applicable everywhere, but traditional markets are rarely held on Sundays, but in quite a few places they are on a Saturday. A decent market can be a big attraction for a town or city
4. Sunday trading. Most shops are 6 hours only on a Sunday, but 8+ on a Saturday. So as well as the early mornings identified, in many places demand will reduce earlier on a Sunday when shops shut at 4/4.30pm
I can certainly see the case for increased Sunday services, but I'm not sure almost identical Saturday and Sunday timetables are going to become widespread any time soon
An estate near me has buses every 12 minutes on a Saturday into town. On Sundays, there's only a bus every hour, and it only serves about half of the estate, being a deviation of another route (in doing so missing out another smaller estate).
Some way off equal Saturday and Sunday services here!!
Bus companies still live in there own little world regarding the concept of service rather the lack of it.
The fact that less then 2% of people now commute to work by bus says it all. Unless sonme ne works in the local town centre you can pretty much forget it and even then it is not really viable many shops open ona sunday but there will be no early morning service & many shops open late at least one day a wek and by then there will be pretty much no service
Bus companies now sole exist to transport concessionary pass holders & students around. How long that can last is debatable as costs are escalating & fare paying passenger numbers falling and at somepoint the system will become unafforadable particlary with bus fares normally going up at least twice the rate of inflation
People do alot more on Sundays that just shop! There is still alot of people who have to go to work.
No Sunday trading laws in Scotland
most shopping malls which i suspect draw the most numbers open at 10 or 11 closing at 4 or 5(6hours).the buses should work around these times.of course we do have the 24 hour superstores.
Not really in context I well remember in the late 40,s early 50,s every bus on sunday working flat out .There were more passengers than seats!Lovely days.
"The fact that less then 2% of people now commute to work by bus says it all. Unless sonme ne works in the local town centre you can pretty much forget it"
That is more to do with the failure of our planning system than failure of bus companies to tap into latent demand. With most of the population owning cars why would you catch a bus to one of these out of town developments where parking is plentiful and more importantly free usually conveniently located just off a major road junction?
I wouldn't dream of taking my car into most city centres because of the congestion, limited parking and cost of that parking but I rarely consider catching the bus when travelling to an out-of-town development.
Interesting that this discussion seems to have completely ignored the issue of cost of providing services on a Sunday (or other 'unsocial' times).
If the pay rates for drivers and the other staff required to maintain a service are 'consolidated' into a single hourly rate regardless of the time of day or day of the week, then there is probably no difference in the cost of providing service on a Sunday compared to any other day. However, from my recollection, the consolidation of wage rates tended to be cyclical, such that it sometimes became difficult to find sufficient staff to work the 'unsocial hours' services. In periods of low unemployment, bus workers might leave for jobs with more regular, 'social', hours; at other times, overtime might prove difficult to cover on Sundays, etc. In those circumstances, enhancements for unsocial hours would be re-introduced. I have also come across situations where Sunday work was covered entirely on overtime, so that even with a 'consolidated' rate, a Sunday service would still be more expensive to operate than on other days.
Due to the wide variety of circumstances and agreements in the bus industry, it's not possible to generalise, but cost may well be a factor in determining the level of service on a Sunday. Whether the factors that determine the cost have any relevance or connection to the potential demand for services on a Sunday in those areas, is, of course, another question!
In Wembury near Plymouth we have recently had all Sunday and Bank Holiday services withdrawn. Sadly if the service was not well used I guess this is inevitable, even if it is stating the obvious!
A further aspect (round here and, presumably in many other places too) is that parking is free on Sundays. With the roads (in a small-medium sized town) generally quieter, the car becomes a far more viable option than on Saturday.
Good point about pay rates RC169, in the mid-late '90s time and a half or double time was common in the retail sector for those rostered to work Sundays, I'm told now its rare for retailers to pay such generous enhancements.
Sunday pay enhancements persist in the transport sector, probably due to the relative power of the unions, after all when was the last time retail staff went on strike over pay and conditions?
Sundays being covered exclusively on overtime appears to be more common on the railways, NatEx in the last days of the Central Trains franchise got themselves in a terrible mess over this leaving most of Birmingham without a Sunday rail service most weekends following a fall out with the drivers union. I've always throught it perverse to expect an entire days rostered work to be covered on voluntary overtime.
What absolute rubbish. This is the sort of politically inspired drivel that even the PTEs have stopped spouting.
I work for a bus company which is part of a large regional group. In terms of relying on Concessionary and Student travel, nothing could be further from the truth.
Concessionary usage has levelled out and payment levels are falling. Like many operators we face falling concessionary rates, less council contracts for 'socially necessary but wholly unviable services', a reduction in BSOG, rising fuel costs, and a range of other cost pressures.
We continue to manage that by further efficiencies in our back office and avoidable costs (insurance claims, staff utilisation and fuel efficiency for example), but the most significant part of our strategy is to grow our fare paying customer base. We've been successfully doing this right through the past year.
We're investing heavily in new vehicles, and new payment systems, which help us to grow fare paying custom.
Your sweeping statements are a long way off the mark in a number of the big groups and enlightened smaller independent operators.
Bus companies still live in there own little world regarding the concept of service rather the lack of it.
The fact that less then 2% of people now commute to work by bus says it all. Unless sonme ne works in the local town centre you can pretty much forget it and even then it is not really viable many shops open ona sunday but there will be no early morning service & many shops open late at least one day a wek and by then there will be pretty much no service
Bus companies now sole exist to transport concessionary pass holders & students around. How long that can last is debatable as costs are escalating & fare paying passenger numbers falling and at somepoint the system will become unafforadable particlary with bus fares normally going up at least twice the rate of inflation
01 May, 2011 22:48
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