Journey planners are useful. Punch in an origin and destination and even the most bus timetable-illiterate passenger can see at a glance how to make that journey. It’s quicker than thumbing through printed or web-based copy. It’s intuitive. It conquers one of the phobias people have about using buses—imperfect information. So why don’t operators have them on their websites? Not even Arriva, First or Stagecoach. Reason? Cost.
Well, that’s what we’ve been led to believe. Actually, it’s no lie, because the database & complexity of the algorithms supporting journey planners are complicated, expensive and hence best left to specialists, such as Traveline and TfL.
From this afternoon, you will find a new journey planner, top left, on the TYB website. Is this a first?
Things are about to change. Launching later today, at about noon in fact, is Transdev Yellow Buses’ own online journey planner. An operator with a journey planner: is this a first? We think it is (unless you know differently). Translink is an operator with a planner, but that’s slightly different: it acts as the Traveline of Northern Ireland, is government funded, and is a little like TfL.If TYB’s isn’t the first, then it’s visually the neatest and outstrips Traveline South West’s for crispness. And, TYB’s will let you enter your journey details directly from the front page—unlike Travelivesw. Of course, Travelinesw rules for regional journeys, though there are too many quirks within for my liking, especially regarding the PDF output. In Travelinesw’s defence, it has to deal with the straightforward, the less than straightforward and the downright odd. While testing the TYB planner in comparison with Travelinesw, Traveline threw up the use of Monday only single journey Damory 324 on a journey from Bearwood (Poole borough) to Littledown.
Journey planner brought to you by the Base Creative Agency following substantial testing, the people responsible for TYB’s latest website plus its online payments
TYB’s planner is nevertheless a revelation. On the face of it, it works very much like any other—postcodes, prominent destinations, suburbs, centres, etc. Whereas each time it produces a single option (unlike Travelinesw’s multiples), an advanced search means you can tell the planner whether you want to minimise walking or maximise changing. You can therefore ask the planner to offer journeys with changes if that’s quicker; or you can reduce the changes if you don’t feel confident. There’s an option to start your journey later, if that’s actually quicker. The planner, however, doesn’t show walking times. But, when you select a date, it helpfully pulls up a month view calendar, rather than drop down dates as in Travelinesw. A matter of preference.
Another useful feature is that when you begin to type a destination, it will offer suggestions. This isn’t available at Travelinesw. Mind you, “Poole” as in the town centre presents itself half way down the list. “Gervis Place” comes up straightaway but visitors in particular will look for “Bournemouth”. “Bournemouth Town Centre” is third from bottom. No mention of “Bournemouth Square”, though, which is unfortunate, especially as the planner’s output refers to this as a destination. And what will visitors make of “Bournemouth Interchange (The Interchange)” and “Bournemouth Bus Station (Coach Station)”? These are but nit-pickings.Slightly irksome, when you type in a postcode, you have to select it as a drop down. This seems superfluous.
There’s a mapping option for most (though not quite all) journeys. It plots your route on Google Maps, with the ability to zoom, slide and select the Street View Pin Man. The route pins give information and are clickable. Remember to select the “Close Map” option rather than be tempted to use your browser’s back button. The map option is clearly ahead of Travelinesw.
An interesting quirk is that the “bus” symbol that indicates you need to travel by bus (obviously!) is the Euro-symbol and hence is of a single deck frontal silhouette that is LHD. All joking aside, TYB’s journey planner is a powerful tool that will further the cause for getting people on the bus. It’s amazing that a smaller organisation has the wherewithal to produce such a powerful utensil where larger operators have thus far failed. Not surprisingly, TYB is keeping tight lipped as to the cost.Does the TYB planner work? We test it on the Dorset Bus Blog
i Visit TYB’s homepage from 1200 to test the journey planner yourself

12 comments:
as travel planners go this one is pretty weird and not intuitive to use
bit crap
bit crap?! what i'm looking at looks great so far
Nice tool. Shame that your local operators can't raise one bus between them to serve the ferry terminal - multimodal public transport, what's that?
I for one am fairly impressed with the tool. I particularly like the option to give feedback, yellowbuses obviosuly know they wont have all the bugs ironed out as this has been released to beta first. Well done them on being the first!
I tried the W&D journey planner the other and it was awful. Their website itself is pretty poor too...do they ever ask the public what they think or even care ?
Joe Public looking for info doesn't want any bugs or errors...surely the bus company staff should weed them out prior to going public.
Seems impressive, it worked for all the things I tested it with. Not sure how it can be described as crap.
Re Anon at 1653. Since when did W&D have a journey planner?
The changes feed through to the timetables as well, you can get every stop now looks like a lot of work - maybe the first posters just hadn't refreshed their browswers?
It looks like it's run off Traveline SW just presented better and with different stop names (using a different field in NAPTAN - probably 'common name' only). Does it deliver the same answers?
It does look impressive at first sight, and a damn site nicer to use than any of the rubbish that Traveline use. Not knowing the area, I can't comment on the accuracy of it.
I suspect that part of the reason why this isn't more common among operators - as well as cost - is that often they don't run all the services. If they're giving timetables then the onus is on you to use them appropriately. But if they're giving you route advice, there's more of an expectation that it will be accurate. But if it only takes into account that operator's services, it might send you on a ridiculously long journey or one using a very infrequent service, when another operator's service would (in whole or part) offer a much quicker and more convenient journey.
While no operator wants to promote its competition, neither do they want to be luring pax onto their buses under false pretences, when all it is going to do is irritate the passenger who finds he's spend 2 hours on the bus to make a journey he could have done in 30 minutes.
It's interesting that Traveline utilised the market-day Damory 324, because if I contrive to plan a journey from Ringwood to Wimborne on Friday at around 1025, there is no mention of a similar Damory service (321) which would get me there fairly quickly, and without any changes. Nevertheless, Traveline does seem to have a timetable for that service, whereas the thrice-daily Damory 128 timetable appears to be entirely devoid of journeys.
IMO, the most useful features of Traveline SW have been eliminated in the name of 'progress' by the changes reported in your blog entry of 14/10/2010. And quite apart from that, the accompanying school/non-schoolday problems highlighted back then are *still* not fixed.
I'm currently trying to establish whether Traveline SW consumes public money, and if so it might be worth a FOI enquiry as to how much it has cost them to, effectively, break it.
RedRover said...
"I'm currently trying to establish whether Traveline SW consumes public money, and if so it might be worth a FOI enquiry as to how much it has cost them to, effectively, break it."
I think the answer to your question is almost certainly 'yes' - the 'about Traveline' page of the general Traveline site says the following:-
"Traveline Information Ltd is a partnership of transport operators and local authorities formed to provide impartial and comprehensive information about public transport. It operates in Scotland, England and Wales."
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