Monday, 27 December 2010

Belt Up

I suppose it was the fact that the crash occurred on Christmas Eve. And that the majority if not all the 48-49 passengers aboard were reported as wearing their seat belts and the vehicle remained largely structurally intact. For these reasons, the Norfolk crash, where a brand new 60-reg Mercedes of Coach Marqued Galloway’s ended up on its side, didn’t quite get the media exposure you might’ve expected. No one died.

Seat belts on coaches had no benefit from the sort of campaigns associated with the voluntary wearing of belts in cars, in the 1970s

Indeed, it’s generally acknowledged that seat belts played a considerable part in minimising injuries. Excuse the pun, but have we reached a tipping point in the public’s perception about wearing seat belts on coaches? I don’t think that we have quite yet but it’s certain that we are approaching that time when clunking & clicking every trip will become the norm.

For now, though, passengers still feel inherently safe aboard a coach, such that seat belt wearing isn’t always their first thought. Passengers do have good cause to feel that way: coaches and buses have an impressive record. Yet, there’ve been a spate of over-turning incidents recently and even more than the usual number of double deck topplings, including coaches.

Next year, seat belt regulations regarding children & young people date back exactly 20 years. Readers may recall that, back then, a PSV needed lap belts as a minimum if it:
  • Carried three or more children (as defined by their age and journey was school-related).

  • Was defined as a coach. For this purpose,, this depended upon its doing more than 60 mph.
At the time, there was much industry groaning by operators. No doubt cost had something to do with it but there were other concerned:
  • Some felt that belt fitting was actually necessary. It as an over-reaction.

  • Many thought belts might prevent swift evacuation. Not that anyone paid any heed to evacuation training.

  • Some believed, in a crash, that ill-fitted restraints would cause the flooring to rip out, thereby increasing risks.
The initial industry response was therefore defensive. They fitted limiters that prevented their vehicles going over the defined 60 mph. This meant that belts were not required.

How things change. Next year, 2011, will see the fifth anniversary of the mandatory wearing of seat belts, where fitted. Drivers need to make an announcement to this affect unless as is usual the vehicle has a standard seat belt pictogram.

Those travelling with Galloway’s were reported as retired. It’s people such as these who seem more attuned to belt wearing on coaches. If each incident does nothing else but plant the need to wear seat belts into the public’s mind then at least something comes out of each one.

What of the segment of the population initially targeted in 1991, young people? Primary pupils up to 11 will generally wear belts, especially if reminded. Those over 11 feel immortal and rarely belt up, even if reminded. 20 years after belts first became compulsorily fitted and five after they were mandatory in use, the one thing that’s lacking is enforcement.

Meanwhile, with the Galloway’s incident involving just the brand new vehicle itself, on a straight piece of road that the police described as “fine”, it seems clear where the police investigation will concentrate.

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

As a once daily bus traveller who now drives almost every day I find it natural to sit down and reach for the belt. This has the effect of making me feel slightly uncomfortable not being able to do so on a bus.
I wonder if, notwithstanding statistics about passenger safety, the bus industry needs to think about how it can improve public perception of safety, especially on inter-urban services.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 09:36 has just mentioned buses, thus going OT from coaches.

I think both public and operators would find any legislation to wards belted buses disturbing.

Cost, reduced capacity however much we hate to stand, even further cuts to compound the problems made by councils' not being willing to pay more for services, would be a very poisonous cauldron to stir.

RC169 said...

Anon at 10:01 has mentioned standing passengers, and, of course any rules requiring seatbelts in vehicles that carry standing passengers would be completely ludicrous, and would earn the creators of such rules well-deserved ridicule. Given the widespread replacement of double deckers by single deckers over the last 30 or 40 years, and occasionally even artics, the proportion of the passenger capacity that is standing room is probably now higher than it has ever been.

Also, bear in mind the fact that in dense urban traffic, there is often a passenger standing or moving to or from the door to alight, or having just boarded. Any legislation towards 'belted buses' would be not just 'disturbing', it would be completely unworkable.

The 60 mph limit seems sensible, and I presume that there should be an 'and' between the two conditions you mention in:-

", a PSV needed lap belts as a minimum if it:

Carried three or more children (as defined by their age and journey was school-related).

Was defined as a coach. For this purpose,, this depended upon its doing more than 60 mph."

Anonymous said...

Not forgetting that there is currently no legal requirement for children aged under 14 to wear a seatbelt on a full size coach. Maybe this needs to be addressed.

I currently drive coaches on an almost daily basis and by far the worst 'group' of people for not wearing them are the teachers. I would have thought they should be setting an example to their pupils, but I would say a good 75% don't bother.

James said...

Anonymous @1405: presumably because they need to be able to get up an break up the catfights/prevent weed smoking in the back seats?

Anonymous said...

I don't wear 3 point belts on coaches - the reason for this is that they are not properly designed for the taller passenger. They push you uncomfortably down into a seat that a 6-footer towers over.

Before I will (and the low chance of getting caught means that enforcement is unlikely to sway me), there needs to be a rethink so the belt is mounted higher up on the seat or is adjustable like it is in my car (where I always wear it). Until then, I won't bother.

Anonymous said...

Further to that, of late I note that the rail industry has started moving towards seats that do suit taller people - those on First Great Western are a particularly good example. Perhaps the coach industry also needs to consider this?

Anonymous said...

I've been reading some news articles about the crash, and one passenger said they'd never get on a coach again... The same passenger who described themself desperately trying to hold themselves off someone else while the coach was on its side, which "did them no good". It rather suggests that this silly passenger wasn't wearing their seat belt. If nothing else, it's selfish, because they could injure or even kill someone else if they get thrown about in a crash.

Part of the problem is the similarity between bus and coach. Buses don't have seat belts, so people wonder why they should wear seat belts on coaches.

With school children, the rebellious type try and avoid wearing them, and then there's the issue of peer pressure for the other children.

I've even seen some coach drivers not wear their own belts which hardly helps matters.

I was on a rail replacement coach last year, and very few people around me bothered to put their belt on. The driver didn't even mention it - from my experience they rarely do.

However, a couple of years ago, I was on another rail replacement coach. The driver did mention the laws, and said something along the lines of "there's a legal requirement for you to wear your belts. All I have to do is tell you, so now I have I'm fine. So if we crash and overturn and you all break your necks and die, I'm not responsible". This worked well, and was followed by a mass of clicking!

Going onto buses, I do hope they never do end up with seat belts. It really wouldn't work, but that doesn't mean some idiot wouldn't introduce it as law. First now have driver's seat belts on their new buses, which just pushes weight onto the argument that passengers should have them too.

And I am a bit sceptical about drivers seat belts. While it will stop you going through the windscreen (and indeed there was a nasty bus crash near where I live where the driver did end up in the road). I would have thought though, the only way a driver could be thrown through the window is if a car goes head on into the front of the bus, the bus stops suddenly and the driver doesn't.

There does seem to be many (more?) accidents where the bus windscreen is speared, or the cab gets crushed by a large vehicle, where being able to move in your seat could help. Unlike cars, there is no bonnet or engine to take any of the impact - it's just glass.

I would love to know the information about how driver's seat belts are safer, presumably someone at First knows?

Does anyone know if it is definitely a legal requirement for the driver to wear a seat belt on a bus with the driver's belt.